Benefits of Dr John Jorgensen’s Bariatric Programme:
Dr Jorgensen does not run “double lists” so you can be assured only he will be performing your surgery.
· Unlimited bariatric-related follow-up consultations with Dr Jorgensen, dietitian and nurse for 2 years post-surgery (no cost billed to patient)
· Some patients may also have to pay a hospital excess fee (dependent on their private health insurance policy). · Anaesthetist is billed separately, surgical assistant billed separate.
· Psychological support worth $1200 is included. This two-year structured program helps to improve your mindset for weight loss and to re-program negative food behaviours. The FreshStart program includes pre and post psychological support, group support, phone support, online support and group sessions.
· If you are privately insured, we will give you an estimate of your Medicare and health fund rebate at your first consult or if you call our rooms.
· If you are not privately insured but wish to fund your own surgery (self-funded patient) you will also be required to pay hospital fees.
· If you are unable to afford your surgery you may be able to access your super for this life saving surgery. You can do this through the Australian Taxation Office website or www.mysupercare.com.au. If you are self-funded, we will give you an estimate of your costs if you call our rooms.
What should I do BEFORE my first bariatric consultation?
- Before booking a consultation we encourage all new patients to attend one of our free bariatric seminars held in our rooms one Saturday morning seminar every month. Please contact our receptionist for upcoming dates.
- Seminars are often heavily booked so please email us to secure a spot at reception.
- Seminars provide helpful information about the disease of obesity, why it is difficult to lose weight, and why surgery can help. In particular, the accompanying support person often gains insight into the struggle of being obese.
- We also recommend that all new bariatric patients sign up to our newsletter. Full of diet tips and bariatric updates, you will also be able to follow some of our patients throughout their bariatric surgery journey. Click here to join the mailing list
What should I bring to my first consultation?
During your first consultation you should remember to bring the following with you:
- Your GP referral
- Any relevant blood test results, scans and X-Rays
- A list of current medications (prescription and over the counter)
- Your private health insurance card
- A list of questions you wish to ask
To optimise your consulting time with Dr Jorgensen, please print out and bring in the new patient form pre-filled. If you are a bariatric patient please print and pre-fill the New Patient Form and The Considering Weight Loss? forms attached here. If you do not have a printer at home we will print out for you and you can fill these out in our office.
Where can I find out more about my Upper GI and Bariatric surgery?
How much weight will I lose with surgery?
- Gastric Bypass – 75% excess weight loss
- Sleeve Gastrectomy – 65-70% excess weight loss
- In the overwhelming majority of cases patients are able to maintain weight loss long-term. Many studies show that bariatric surgery is the only durable form of weight loss. Read this article from The New York times, 2017, on why bariatric surgery works when diets don’t.
- Long-term weight loss depends on the surgery, and most importantly, dietary change and regular exercise. These lifestyle changes are as important as the surgery.
Is it my fault I am obese?
A person cannot change their genetics or epigenetics. What they CAN change is surgery (to change biology) combined wtih healthy lifestyle measures to support the surgery.
How much will my consult and surgery cost?
Dr Jorgensen charges $195 for an initial medical consult with
For privately insured bariatric patients who then decide to proceed with surgery, total out of pocket cost for Dr Jorgensen’s services for two years will be $5200.
- His surgical fee. Dr Jorgensen does not run “double lists” so you can be assured only he will be performing your surgery.
- Unlimited bariatric-related follow-up consultations with Dr Jorgensen, dietitian and nurse for 2 years post-surgery (no cost billed to
- Some patients may also have to pay a hospital excess fee (dependent on their private health insurance policy).
- Anaesthetist is billed separately, surgical assistant billed separate.
- Optional cost is psychological support is $300 extra under Dr Jorgensen, normally this a $1200 program that runs over 2 years. This structured program helps to improve your mindset for weight loss and to re-program negative food behaviours. The FreshStart program includes pre and post psychological support, group support, phone support, online support and group sessions every three months.
- If you are privately insured, we will give you an estimate of your Medicare and health fund rebate at your first consult or if you call our rooms.
- If you are not privately insured but wish to fund your own surgery (self-funded patient) you will also be required to pay hospital fees.
- If you are unable to afford your surgery you may be able to access your super for this
life savingsurgery. You can do this through the Department of Human Services or www.mysupercare.com.au. If you are self-funded, we will give you an estimate of your costs if you call our rooms.
Am I a candidate for bariatric surgery?
- You have a BMI above 40 (morbidly obese)
- You have a BMI between 30 and 40 plus one or more serious obesity-related comorbidities such as Type 2 diabetes, obstructive sleep apnoea, osteoarthritis, depression and high blood pressure
- You do not excessively consume alcohol or other drugs of dependence
- You are ready to embrace significant lifestyle modifications, including changing eating habits and embarking on a regular exercise program
- You are willing to challenge negative food thinking patterns.
Can I use bariatric surgery as a treatment for diabetes?
- Yes in fact 45 different scientific and medical groups in 2016 recommended that obesity surgery should become a standard treatment for obese patients with diabetes.
- These new recommendations represent the biggest change to the treatment of diabetes in decades.
- About 80 per cent of patients who undergo bariatric surgery will either completely resolve their diabetes in hospital or weeks or months after surgery.
- The remainder will usually be able to significantly reduce their medication.
- Type II diabetes is considered one of the strongest indications for weight loss surgery.
- Both sleeve gastrectomy and Roux-en-Y gastric by-pass induce hormonal changes which encourage Type II Diabetes remission. Hence these are called “metabolic” surgeries.
What are the risks of bariatric surgery?
- Bariatric surgery today is a very well tolerated surgery and has a similar surgical safety profile to a standard hip or knee replacement procedure.
- According to the latest figures from the Bariatric Surgical Registry, of the 22,000-odd patients who underwent bariatric surgery in 2017, only 2.5% of patients had an adverse event during surgery (that required a return to theatre, ICU or hospital re-admission).
- And more than 99.9 per cent of patients survived their bariatric surgery.
- On the other hand, for the morbidly obese patient the risks of NOT having the surgery are much greater and include heart disease, diabetes, sleep apnoea, obesity and a significantly greater chance of premature death.
- Dr Jorgensen will provide more information on side effects of surgery during your consultation.
As a Bariatric Centre of Excellence, St George Private Hospital has one of the safest surgical safety records for bariatric procedures in the world and is Australia’s first Internationally Accredited Centre of Excellence for Bariatric Surgery, as accredited by the Surgical Review Corporation, which accredits centres of excellence around the world.
Why does surgery work if diets and exercise don’t?
- The set-point theory states that the hypothalamus will rigorously defend a person’s highest weight.
- Diet and exercise will trigger the famine reaction which will eventually defeat weight loss.
- Weight loss surgery works by changing the individual’s biology – reducing the “pull” to regain weight and enabling an individual to maintain long-term weight loss.
- Put simply, surgery lessens the task of weight loss maintenance, but does not eliminate the task as diet and exercise changes remain critical.
If I have surgery why does my diet need to change?
- Both the sleeve gastrectomy and Roux-en-Y gastric by-pass reduce meals to an entrée size. Hence in three meals all the daily nutrients need to be delivered.
- There is no “room” for empty calories.
- Also, the human body functions better on real food. We recommend the CSIRO low-carbohydrate diet book as a template for eating.
- Modern processed foods (bread, high sugar, fiberless, industrial fat, additives, antibiotics etc) will sabotage any surgery so are best avoided.
Why is exercise necessary?
- No study has ever been published with negative results about modest exercise.
- In short, exercise is good for you. In the context of weight loss surgery exercise helps maintain muscle mass as well as providing increased calorie burn.
- Exercise improves insulin sensitivity which is critical in health and weight management; 10,000 steps is really a baseline requirement.
- People who cannot exercise can still undergo surgery but the results will be compromised.
- When it comes to weight loss though remember it’s 90% diet and 10% exercise.
What is the recovery period and what will life be like after bariatric surgery?
- Generally you will be able to return home after 48 hours, go back to a desk job in one to two weeks and a more physical job in 2-6 weeks.
- Initially, the surgery is very restrictive, meaning that you won’t be able to eat a lot and it may take some time before you can tolerate most things, albeit in small amounts.
- However over the next 12 months, as the smaller stomach recovers, patients move toward the ability to eat normal consistency meals.
- Your diet will move through 3 different phases. Post-operatively, patients are on puree diet for 3 weeks and then progress to a soft diet. At 9-12 months most patients can eat an entree sized meal with generally not much difficulty with any food items.
- The majority of the weight loss occurs in the first 6-9 months post-surgery. Weight will than continue until 12 months and then stabilise.
If I have a heart condition can I have bariatric surgery?
- Yes – in fact surgery generally leads to improvement in many heart conditions including blood pressure, coronary artery disease, cholesterol and heart enlargement.
- Please tell Dr Jorgensen of any previous surgeries, heart conditions or if you are on blood thinners of any kind.
- It is also advisable to provide medical clearance from your cardiologist and provide details of any other treating specialist doctors.
Will I need to have excess skin removed after surgery?
- Many patients who undergo bariatric surgery choose to have excess skin removed post-bariatric surgery. However not all patients will need plastic surgery – with the likelihood of “leftover skin” largely dependant on:
- How much weight is lost
- Genetics and how springy the skin is
- The age of the patient – younger patients often have excellent outcomes without any skin procedures needed; while about half of older patients opt to have excess skin removed.
- I generally advise all patients to wait for at least one year until weight has stabilised before considering plastic surgery.
How do I eat after surgery?
- Keep meals small
- Drink and eat slowly
- Avoid snacking and grazing
- Use meal replacement as needed
- Avoid alcohol after surgery and limit alcohol
- Think high-protein foods
- Practice mindful eating – eg not while watching TV
- Sit at the table, chew well and eat slowly
- Drink liquids between meals
- Chew your food 20 times per mouthful
- Avoid a sugary and fatty foods
- Try new foods one at a time
- Take recommended vitamin and mineral supplements
- Exercise regularly – Aim for 10,000 steps per day
- Eat real food not processed food
- We recommend the new CSIRO low-carbohydrate diet book as a template for eating.
When can I exercise?
If I would like to provide patient feedback or have a complaint where do I email?
How do I broach the subject of weight loss with loved ones?
- Focus on looks, obesity, will power or weakness when it comes to food decisions.
- Compare weight to siblings, relatives or friends.
- Use “shame” statements such as – “Do you really need to eat that?” Or “I’ve noticed you’re still eating after dinner.” Shame does not engender meaningful change.
- Use ominous or fearful pretexts such as: “We need to have a talk”.
- Judge. No one chooses to be fat (except sumo wrestlers). Obesity is a complex cocktail of genetics, diet, environmental factors, medication side effects, engineered or “hyper-palatable junk foods” and other contributing factors.
- Have one set of rules for other members of the house, yet ban chips and chocolate for the person who needs to lose weight.
- Choose your time and place. Weight is a sensitive topic that needs to be treated with respect. Discussing weight whilst out on a walk or in the park, will be much better than the dinner table where there is immediate pressure to make food decisions.
- Always display empathy and take a positive, proactive position. A “let’s-all-embrace-this-together-attitude” is far more beneficial than “you-are-the-one-with-the-problem attitude.” Many families today are able to lose weight/maintain a healthy weight together.
- Frame the conversation about health and happiness rather than around food, eating habits or willpower. For instance: “Darling I’m really worried about your diabetes and the amount of medication you are taking keeps getting higher. Do you think we could be prepared to make some diet changes together or at least go to see the doctor?”
- Encourage a visit to the GP to reinforce health concerns and track weight progress
- Encourage healthy shopping and eating and have healthy snacks close by
What does Centre of Excellence Mean?
BCOE accreditation is only awarded after an audit and inspection process by an International Accrediting body (the Surgical Review Corporation) – the biggest surgical organization for the specialty in the world.
Accreditation is only offered to hospitals where surgeons and staff work together to provide the highest level of care including:
- High caseload
- 24 hour cover and support for patients in and out of hospital
- Support group meetings for patients post-procedure
- ICU and X-Ray/CT availability 24/7
- Prospective audit and monitoring of long-term outcomes
Contact us today!
Call us on 02 9553 7288.